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UPDATED 7.24.2012:

 

NEW UPDATES 7.24

Hey all,

Some of you had encountered intermittent problems posting blogs and comments -- the text boxes and editing buttons were not appearing and, we suspect, the page looked kind of funky; we believe all of you experiencing this problem were using Internet Explorer and, probably, an older version. We have fixed the problem. You should not experience it again. So, hooray!

We have a new "chat" function, which loads quicker, and works better. One of the biggest improvements is that your chats are now saved! To get to them, go to youngwritersproject.org/drupalchat/messages (you need to be logged in)... click on the username with whom you were chatting to see the full chat. NOTE: The functionality of this will be changing a bit, we'll alert you.

One challenge with the chat function right now, is that the "mute" button is hiding. When you bring up the chat window, there is a bar right below "chat" and right above "public chatroom." Just to the left of the indicator circle (showing whether you are available or not) is an empty square. That is the invisible mute button; click in that area and it mutes the sound indicator. It will soon have a little image of speaker on it, the universal symbol for "toggle volume." 

Also, we have resolved the sizing issue with profile pictures--these should be resolved, all profile pictures now have a maximum size of 200 pixels wide. Some of you will note that your picture is avatar size. You can reload a LARGER version (no limit) if you'd like it to appear larger on your profile page.

As usual, let us know what you think!

dd & gg

 

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Hi folks.

I re-entered the online world this morning (between vacation stops at places without a computer or internet access) and fixed something that had annoyed me and a few things that annoyed you:

  • You will note that MESSAGES has disappeared from the toolbar. There was a mixed reaction to that, so state your feelings below if you feel strongly about having it there or NOT having it there...
  • More importantly, I fixed the tab on your profile page so that a) it tells you whether you have a new message and b) contains a link to include "write new message."
  • Also, when you log in you'll see "you have x unread messages" which is a link to your messages page.
  • RE: Where's My Blog? and/or I Just Want To Read Someone Else's Blog ... Your "Blog" is now visible through the new tab that is on your profile page ("Posts" tab is gone)... and if you go to someone else's profile and click the "Blog" tab OR click to the link to their blog at the bottom of one of their posts, you can get to their blogs...
  • I added a new view of your recent comments to the center of your profile page.

AND you will note that when you login, you will be taken to the front page, not your profile page.

cheerio, off to Quebec City...

gg

And I'm back. Awesome food. Amazing exhibit of Women Surrealist Artists. Monstrous walks and lots of French. ...

UPDATE: If you wish to receive emails when you get a comment on one of your posts, edit your account (via the profile page) and make sure the "autosuscribe" box is checked (near the bottom) and then save. This will work on NEW posts that you make.

The changes so far:

  • July 3:
    • NEW PROFILE PAGE! You should be able to go to your profile page (click on Hello [username] in upper right after you log in.) And click the "edit" and the "user profile" and fill out whatever you'd like to share. NOTE: In the "About Me" part be general, but interesting. Try not to identify yourself; the other users can see this. Upload a new larger You can add a lot of other material about yourselves, though. have fun.
    • NEW CONNECT Page... You'll see a new feature that allows you to post 500-character items -- stories, rants, ideas, whatever and then add to them by commenting below them. ALSO you can add to others' ideas by commenting on their posts. Try it out.
    • The OLD SHOUTBOX 6-word story is back in a block on the right sidebar
  • July 2:
    • More options with the TOOLBAR at top: This is where you now log in; READ link  has expanded options; "Recommended" list to grow through loves by mentors, administrators and uber-users
    • Collapsible right sidebar blocks.
    • Revised left sidebar. Hint: The left side is on the right and some of it will be going soon. We're reducing the options before we say goodbye to it. (Use toolbar at the top)
    • New LOVE system. Yes, we have a love lost situation here. Different set up; old loves gone. Now you have Blue Love; love a piece as you always have ... NEW: You can see who has loved your or someone else's  post (click title and tab "Loved By") AND click the Link "My Loves" on right sidebar in the block with your username as title (soon to be on your profile page) will let you see what you've loved ... Also, you get an email as soon as you receive a love. (If you don't please let us know...)
    • NOTE: PLEASE UPDATE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESSES TO YOUR HOME ADDRESSES NOT YOUR SCHOOL ADDRESSES. THANKS THANKS THANKS!
    • New notifications and ability to follow folks. Sorry, you are going to have to redo who you had been following, and we need some testers to see if you are, in fact, getting emails...
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  • New code throughout. (I know, yawn, yawn, but it's what makes this thing work so I love it!)
  • New rich text editor when you post -- cleaner, works better AND has option of choosing Spell check as you type.
  • New blog creation form -- cleaner with better order.
  • REQUIRED genre tag choice. (I know this will annoy you, but, like the doctor says, you'll thank us ...
  • New HTML5 audio player (will work on iThingies)
  • Temporary retirement of direct records. We think we preserved all of them and reuploaded them as mp3, but let us know if you "lost" yours; we can retrieve from server and repost for you. Give us the url of post where it is missing.
  • CHAT. OMG, LOL or HMHYWPLIM? (Holy Mackerel Has YWP Lost Its Mind?) This gives you a fifth way to communicate with each other -- Comment (the best), Love, Contact (in user profile and you can send an email), Message (send a private message) and now, CHAT. You can see it in lower right of your screen. This is a LIVE CHAT, meaning it vaporizes when you log out. I know, not the same as that other social media site, Pacemook, but we kinda like it this way. There is the option to chat with a specific (online) user, or send a "public" chat, that any users currently online can see. 
  • Toolbar on top. We will be drastically altering (reducing) the links to go to a simpler cleaner approach. You can use the WRITE to create a blog, which will soon become the only content type. You can use READ to explore, but right now it only brings up the DAILY READS.
  • MORE CHANGES COMING based on your surveys, the work of an active bunch of folks who came to our brainstorming session and have been working on our development site. Among the changes:
    • Enhanced organization around genres
    • and more...

THANKS TO ALL OF YOU and let us know in comments below what you think of the changes and what you hope for...

cheerio

gg (geoff gevalt) & dd (doug demaio)

 

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Nero's picture

I for one...

I for one love it :D The changes you've made are really nice and it's making the site much more ergonomic. The chat a nice feature because it helps writer's talk more freely with the other users. Can't wait to see the rest of the changes! :)

"Dig until you hit rock. Then take out that jackhammer and go a little deeper."

- Allison Brennan

Can we no longer edit titles

Can we no longer edit titles on blog posts if they have already been created? I'm trying to, but it won't let me.

_ __ ___

How to be happy:

Drink water like an alcoholic and give seven hugs per day.

Oh, never mind. Found it!  

Oh, never mind. Found it!

 

_ __ ___

How to be happy:

Drink water like an alcoholic and give seven hugs per day.

Ciel the Sky Mortal's picture

I really like

I reaally like the chat box; very fun haha. But, I am no longer getting emails when I post, comment, or recieve comments. Is this part of the changes or just a glitch? I havnt changed any settings as to the emails I recieve but maybe after the changes I need to fix something? Help would be appreciated!

"Even if it lands you in a straight jacket or a padded cell, play the game, but play it your own way."

ggevalt's picture

Hi, Ciel

Yes, the email notifications is not working... I discovered a flaw -- one that may explain our sometime slowness -- should be fixed soon.

gg

ggevalt's picture

This should be fixed

Ciel, let me know if you are now able to follow folks as in subscribe to their posts...

g

ObsidyanTheAmazin''s picture

Same

I too have been wondering about the emails. I found it very helpful in replying to everyone's comments, as well as keeping tabs on my favorite writers. I was wondering if it was a glitch, just me, or a change. Now that I know it isn't just me, I was wondering what was happening. I hope that didn't sound mad or anything.

I really enjoy most of the new features. Being able to get to the daily read really fast is really great! Oh, and spellcheck! I saw that, and my day just got brighter. A lot brighter. 

I have one more thing I have to ask. What is the deal with the friends thing? 

I appreciate your help, and your effort to the site!

Write On!

Obsidyan

Give me prime laughter

Nice

I like all the new changes!

ada's picture

changes

I like them all. Mostly. How do you 'friend' someone for chat? Or don't you?

thanks,

-ada

-ada
"Never be limited by other people's limited imaginations."

MissAmericanIdiot's picture

^^

I was wondering about the 'friend' thing too...

Yup

me also.

ggevalt's picture

re... friends.

I played around with the whole friends concept and did some work in this regard to the prototype and realized that it really is not a function we need ... the idea, really, is to follow or subscribe to writers you like to read. you can send them a private message via their profile page or your own messages page or you can send them an email via "contact"... or, if they are online, you can chat with them.

So I guess the idea here is not so much as "friends" but the users as a whole and making choices as to which ones you like to read the most..

gg

ObsidyanTheAmazin''s picture

does anyone

Does anyone else think having a search bar would be helpeful? That would allow us to search for writers or specific peices.

Sorry, it was just a thing I was thinking about.

Write On!

Obsidyan

Give me prime laughter

ggevalt's picture

There is a search ...

upper right hand corner at the moment.

gg

Circe's picture

Lost Love

All of the previous "loves" have disappeared. That's kind of disappointing... probably hard to translate that to the new version, though. Ah well.

Ͼirce

ggevalt's picture

Circe...

yes, some things were lost. sorry.

also lost the old notifications that you might have set up.

sometimes new is better. sometimes new is better but painful.

cheers to you,

gg

Man I love collapsible

Man I love collapsible sidebars.

ggevalt's picture

glad you like...

and imagine that you saw some rather odd things happening on the site tonight.

but all done for the moment

g

ada's picture

Ok, I have two questions: 1)

Ok, I have two questions: 1) yeah, what's the deal with the 'friend' thing on chat? How do you make/get friends? 2) how do you get to your own blog? Or someone else's for that matter....

Thanks!

-ada

-ada
"Never be limited by other people's limited imaginations."

ada's picture

Overall, I love the changes

especially the 500 word story thing and the 6 word shout out. But, I have two questions: 1) so what's the deal with the 'friend' thing on chat? How do you make/get friends? and 2) how does one get to their own blog? Or someone else's for that matter?

Thanks!

-ada

-ada
"Never be limited by other people's limited imaginations."

doug.demaio's picture

1) so far, the 'friend'

1) so far, the 'friend' function on chat is kind of useless-- we experimented with it and realilzed that it was sort of a hassle, and there was really no difference when it came to actually using the chat. It just put their names in a seperate list. (when there arent usually more than 5 people on at a time, its pretty easy to see if your friends are on) 2) We've changed the blog format to the profile view, so when you click someones name or search them with the search bar you will be brought to their profile. That has a list of all of the content that they've participated in, and you can click on their blog posts from there. 

 

We're still working out some kinks, figuring out what works the most smoothly, and taking input. So feel free to speak your mind about all the changes. We're here to make this site better for you. 

 

Thanks~

Circe's picture

Hmm... hate to be a whiner,

Hmm... hate to be a whiner, but I really don't like not having a blog that is just my writing... Yes, you can see everything I've POSTED, but that includes comments on other people's work. This makes the Post section cluttered, confusing, and not very... separated, I guess. I'd really like to just be able to go through my actual writing and that of other people. That's my complaint, but for the most part, the site looks much cleaner. Thanks for putting so much effort into it; it looks quite professional.

Ͼirce

Sambo's picture

Circe, I agree....

When looking at other people's work, it's so much nicer to be able to scroll through their blog.  It does seem a bit cluttered with just the profile and the user's activity in its entirety.  

ada's picture

Okay, thanks. I really liked

Okay, thanks. I really liked how before, you could easily see all of one persons writing (a.k.a their blog). Also, why does the 6 word shout out box only show when you go to connect? I think it would be nice if it showed when you were on the home page as well.
-ada

-ada
"Never be limited by other people's limited imaginations."

ggevalt's picture

Ada

Note my update above...

I took your and others' comments to heart and you can now view each other's blogs by clicking on the "ada's blog" link at the bottom of a piece or by going to their (or your) profile page and clicking on the "Blog" tab...

I appreciate your thoughts on the 6-word block being visible everywhere. We like the idea of channelling all these kind of features into one locale...

gg

ada's picture

yay!

Just found that right before I read this! Yay- now it's so much easier to read stuff... though there's a lot more pages now... but one must sacrifice such things....

-ada

-ada
"Never be limited by other people's limited imaginations."

ggevalt's picture

Ada...and others

Just to make sure you saw the changes... you can now get to your "blog" by going to your profile page "Hello ada (or whomever)" and clicking the "blog" tab. ... you can get to someone else's blog by clicking on their username and clicking the "blog" tab OR underneath one of their posts (or your own) you can click the link "ada's (or whomever's) blog"

Hope that helps...

And we have changed chat set ups and no longer even have a reference to "friends" which was misleading

gg

It would be cool if we could

It would be cool if we could connect to facebook... Although I don't know if that would work.

I miss the easy "My Workplace" button.

I am confused about email notifications, I want them back.

Other than that, the changes are amazing!

ggevalt's picture

AllisonV...

We have, in the past, allowed users to post a story to facebook, but we found that many many users did not want that. Are you saying you'd like to be able to post a tease and link to your facebook account?

We've replaced "my workplace" with the "blog" tab on your and everyone's profile page... we feel this gets you much more quickly to a view of the content as opposed to a table of titles...

email notifications ARE back; however, you have to a) make sure to "edit" your profile to make sure "autosubscribe" is checked to get email notifications when someone comments on your piece and b) follow posts or authors anew to get emails when they post.

thanks for the feedback.

gg

confusing

i cant find certain things and when i want to add a follow this post or writer,, it then brings me back to the first page and that isnt helping because i have to go thrugh each page i already read to get back where i was and if i hit that back arrow on my browser it logs me out. anyone else have this happen.

Agreed

Sometimes the comment box is missing. And I'm also having trouble following people.

ggevalt's picture

AllisonV... and others

We think we nailed down the problem a few folks were having (intermittently) with both the "body" box in a blog sumission form that occasionally didn't appear and the same deal on the comments. ... That should be fixed.

Several folks said they also didn't see the "add comment" link and there are views in which you are seeing only a tease and so the add comment doesn't appear. Click the title to see the full post and then you'll see the comment box.

Let me know more info about troubles you might have in following people... not sure what you mean.

gg

angela weasly's picture

I can't post because it asks

I can't post because it asks for a genre and there isn't a place where you can pick the genre, also there's no place you can put in ''Book Festival'' Am I supposed to make that the tittle?

''Humans... the only animals that cut down tree's, make paper out of them, and then write, ''Save the tree's'' on it. Human logic.''

angela weasly

Near the bottom of the page when you are writing up a blog entry there's a sidebar on the left that should have "Tag Folders" as the second one down from the top. Click that, and it will allow you to choose the genre and to enter any keywords you'd like (that's the place you'd put "Book Festival").

Myrikay's picture

Help-

I can't figure out how to post.....

If I give you my heart, will you promise to be careful with it?    

     

doug.demaio's picture

In the toolbar at the top,

In the toolbar at the top, click "write." 

Let me know what's going on, specifically, and I will see if there's a problem with something on our end. 

Thanks for your patience.

Lexie's picture

Messages

At first I couldn't find the message button on the top bar. But once it was there, I thought it was great.

Today, I had no idea where my messages went. I searched, and found it my clicking on the  "Hello Lexie" button up top. BUT, then when I foundmy message tab, I couldn't tell if I had new messages or not", because there is no indicator.  I have messages I am still waiting for responses to, and had to click through each message, to see if there was a response. Please put the message button back up top, and some indicator that there are new messages.  Thank you.

ggevalt's picture

Lexie

Actually if you receive new messages, it WILL note that on your profile. I am open to restoring it on the toolbar, but am holding off for the moment because it is redundant and we're trying to reduce the clutter...

geoff

Lexie's picture

CH-ch--ch-changes

Most have been really good.

A few have been 'quirky', like sometimes the comment box isn't there, and sometimes it is.  That actually, well isn't a good change.  The consistency to be able to comment one someone else's work is important, or to reply to comments given on my one.

ggevalt's picture

Lexie

I believe we've solved this. It was a setting that affected those of you using Internet Explorer. It's been identified and fixed. Please let me know if you see the problem again.

gg

Ciel the Sky Mortal's picture

Emails..

So, I'm not getting emails when someone else comments on something I have. This for example. I've left a comment up above, but I had no idea more poeple had commented because I check my email for that sort of thing. I like all the changes so far but I'd realllyy like the email notifications to come back please!

"Even if it lands you in a straight jacket or a padded cell, play the game, but play it your own way."

ggevalt's picture

Ciel

UPDATE: Ciel... and others... If you wish to receive emails when you get a comment, edit your account (via the profile page) and make sure the "autosuscribe" box is checked (near the bottom) and then save. This will work on NEW posts that you make.

thanks for the heads up... please let me know if it is now working for you. You should now receive messages on your posts. I will go comment on one of your pieces and let me know if it is working.

gg